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BATMAN 10-17-2008, 09:20 AM Guys looking for dates might do well to volunteer at the Salvation Army or help people rescue lost dogs. A new study suggests that women put a high value on altruism in potential mates.
Several factors tend to top the list of desirable mate traits, including physical attractiveness, intelligence and wealth, previous research shows. The new study, which will be published in the November issue of the British Journal of Psychology, suggests another list-topper could be a person's unselfish tendencies.
"Evolutionary theory predicts competition between individuals and yet we see many examples in nature of individuals disadvantaging themselves to help others," said lead researcher Tim Phillips, of the Behavior and Ecology Research Group at the University of Nottingham in England. "In humans, particularly, we see individuals prepared to put themselves at considerable risk to help individuals they do not know for no obvious reward."
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In three studies involving more than 1,000 individuals, Phillips and his colleagues found that women place a greater importance on altruism compared with men.
Nine signs of altruism
Participants in the studies answered questions about various qualities sought in a mate, including nine examples of altruistic behavior, such as "donates blood regularly," "volunteered to help out in a local hospital" and "once cared for a stray dog."
In one of the three studies, the researchers surveyed 170 couples (340 individuals), with an average age of 58, who reported being married or in a long-term relationship.
Each participant rated the importance of nine altruistic behaviors in a mate as well as their own level of altruistic behavior. The preference for altruism reported by one partner was similar to the level of altruism displayed by the other partner.
The researchers say the link between partners suggests altruism may be a factor taken into account by both men and women when choosing a partner.
Rather than helping out a friend or even a stranger in exchange for personal gain, altruistic behaviors could be a way to woo a mate, Phillips said. The results suggest the workings of sexual selection, in which traits that are most successful at helping an individual snag a mate become more common in a population.
"For many years the standard explanation for altruistic behavior toward non-relatives has been based on reciprocity and reputation — a version of 'you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours,'" Phillips said.
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He added the lure of helpful mates could be traced back to our ancestors. "The expansion of the human brain would have greatly increased the cost of raising children so it would have been important for our ancestors to choose mates both willing and able to be good, long-term parents," Phillips said.
In fact, past studies have revealed such selfless behaviors in our closest common ancestor, chimpanzees. And in humans, research has shown that doing good makes you feel good and is linked with happier marriages.
In addition to sexual selection, social norms could also play a role. For instance, while women tend to be seen as nurturing and caring, men are often considered chivalrous and helpful, and so displaying helpful, or altruistic, behaviors. In addition, the researchers say that social norms tend to paint females as somewhat powerless with limited access to resources in society (at least historically). In this stereotyped environment, women would prefer a mate who is willing to unselfishly share power and resources.
Do you search for "how to get women" on google or what?
DarkAngelKamui 10-17-2008, 09:57 AM Do you search for "how to get women" on google or what?
Nah, otherwise he probably would have settled for this:
http://www.newamericandimensions.com/images/how%20to%20date%20a%20white%20woman.jpg
czarofzar 10-17-2008, 10:00 AM i believe batty's story is correct. thou finding a hot babe at these places may be rare. but possible. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Fendamonky 10-17-2008, 10:33 AM ^ you may not necessarily *meet* them there, however you'd still get the positive effects elsewhere. For instance if you've been chatting to a woman who frequents the same coffee shop every day, she seems interested in you and asks if you'd like to go out for a local show/concert on, say, thursday night.. How would it compare, you saying "yeah! That sounds like a lot of fun, I'll pick you up here at seven.." or "I'd really like to, that sounds like a lot of fun... But I already told the SPCA I'd go help clean the kennels. Are you doing anything Friday? I'll be free then.."
czarofzar 10-17-2008, 11:05 AM interesting point
1revnrex 10-17-2008, 11:41 AM most really attractive women don't do things like volunteer (of course there are exceptions)
Takes time away from being snobby bitches.
1revnrex 10-17-2008, 11:58 AM I dont know, I googles "Women Volunteers" and get these fine specimens:
http://www.english.imjnet.org.il/Media/Image/volunteers_w_jose.jpg
Sexy sexy womens.
DarkAngelKamui 10-17-2008, 12:01 PM GMILFs
czarofzar 10-17-2008, 12:14 PM yep...they're at the mall looking for a guy to buy them something
AH! bingooooo!
I always thought that I was right about everything, and everyone else is wrong. I now believe that I am only right about what is right for me, and what is right for me, isn't what is right for most people.
I haven't been a saint, but I really don't worry about "picking women up" anymore. I don't try, and girls that can be "picked up" just aren't what is right for me. I'm the minority there, and I'm not passing judgement on anyone else, that's just what is right for me. I think that once you've experienced love in its purest form, you no longer care about anything but that, and anything short of potentially becoming that isn't worth the time and you're just betraying yourself by doing so... well at least that's how it happened to me. I can't say the old whooped guys didn't warn me. :)
I would say that is VERY representative...the fact is less attractive people tend to be more selfless...at the risk of waxing philosophical, physical beauty can be a snare, like riches...beautful and/or rich people are usually very shallow/superficial
I'm like this because I'm ugly? Damn, it isn't going to stop raining on me today!
you're claiming to be a selfless person, zero?
I really am... Internet alter egos aren't me. Ironically enough, check your PMs... I just sent you an opportunity that I'd get absolutely nothing out of... :)
what would queen say? "subway...now...you, sleep on the floor"
;)
Lol... if Queen ever truly NEEDED subway, she knows all she needs to do is drop a call, and I'd haul my ass to med school across a couple of states, deliver, and not even a "thank you" would be expected.
man_of_steel 10-17-2008, 12:52 PM Look... it's he same old song and dance.
"Women find a sense of altruism desirable in mates."
Now substitute the word "altruism" with "humor" and tell me how many times you've heard this before.
When they refer to the sense of humor bit, what it really translates to is that they won't fuck a funny guy, they just hope the guy they start fucking is funny too.
But we all have had friends at some point who were fucking hilarious but couldn't get a girl to save their life.
Doesn't matter if you're at a soup kitchen or the mall, if you don't have any "game," nothing is going to happen.
BATMAN 10-17-2008, 02:08 PM I would say that is VERY representative...the fact is less attractive people tend to be more selfless...at the risk of waxing philosophical, physical beauty can be a snare, like riches...beautful and/or rich people are usually very shallow/superficial
it depends on how they acquired wealth.
The more blood and sweat that they put into it to make their wealth the less shallow/superficial they are.
Ur talking more about the ones that got "lucky" or inherited their wealth.....
dg123 10-17-2008, 06:34 PM Ur talking more about the ones that got "lucky" or inherited their wealth.....
Or new-money music artists, hip-hop being the most provocative. If you're not flaunting your riches with expensive cars, expensive clothing, expensive jewelry, and expensive accessories, you're nothing.
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