nache' sharika jefferson

Why do hicks do it with their kids?

Top 3 stripper names:
Kammy
Tammy
Crystal

Why do hicks do it with their kids?

Top 3 stripper names:
Kammy
Tammy
Crystal

Lets stay on topic sinfestboy.

My name is William Bryant Samuel, and my parents ensured me that i'd get a job.

So far so good, I make damn good money right now.

BTW, what the hell is up with all the racist type threads lately?

My name is William Bryant Samuel, and my parents ensured me that i'd get a job.

So far so good, I make damn good money right now.

BTW, what the hell is up with all the racist type threads lately?

It's like a bell curve, though. If you're not shitting gold, and your name is William Bryant Samuel, you're as black as the night sky.

I have more respect for folks who at least act respectably. Wannabe-pimps (like half the kids at any high school across the nation) just annoy the everliving piss out of me. I'm not racist, BTW: I'm an equal opportunity asshole.

;)

(I have black friends. I do NOT have pimp friends.)

My name is William Bryant Samuel, and my parents ensured me that i'd get a job.

So far so good, I make damn good money right now.

BTW, what the hell is up with all the racist type threads lately?

so you're black? Why did they choose William over Latrell or Darnell?

nache' sharika jefferson

If this is the case, then why the hell are people discriminating against others purely on a name to name basis?

Since when was giving a child a name a "pick and choose from the manual" sorta thing?

lol, I think sometimes we get silly with that shit, but who doesn't? I still can't understand why some people name their kids "Sheila" and "Sharon" when they're men....

:dunno:

BTW, shouldn't we keep the racism contained to my thread? I mean, that IS what it was made for....

If this is the case, then why the hell are people discriminating against others purely on a name to name basis?



Would you tie your company name to some hood trash sounding name like that? Regardless of the persons merits?

This isn't racist.

so you're black? Why did they choose William over Latrell or Darnell?

My father's first name is William, my mom happened to be looking at Bryant Gumble during the delivery, and Samuel is my last name by default.

Maybe in 100 years biblical names will be looked down upon.
What was once common 200 years ago would be out of the question today:

Ebenezer
Ezechial
Jebidiah
Efraim

Ethel
Gertrude
.....

net/net- who cares?

My father's first name is William, my mom happened to be looking at Bryant Gumble during the delivery, and Samuel is my last name by default.Lets be glad she wasn't watching jerry springer.

Would you tie your company name to some hood trash sounding name like that? Regardless of the persons merits?

Yeah I would, actually....

If they have the skills and business personality to back up a name like that, I wouldn't care what the fuck they were called so long as they could bring in the money and not be ghetto as hell in the process....

Judging a book by it's cover, i'd expect from you....

But judging it by it's TITLE? Now that's just daft....

This isn't racist.

Yeah, it is... lol

Well people do look down upon those names its a fact. Why do blacks continue to name their children like that?

Yeah, it is... lol
Damn right it is. No door is automiatically 'closed' based on a name. The door is shut based on the asshole behind it.

Yeah, it is... lol

Why is it? What about hippies naming their kids Hillbilly Moonshine or something to that effect.

Well people do look down upon those names its a fact. Why do blacks continue to name their children like that?

Indeed people do, but why should it be the SOLE deciding factor in whether a person should be hired or not? Is it the "foot first, brain second" ideals that if someone has an unusual name, they must be trouble and not worth your time? Since when does everything have to fit some sort of standard of living to be "just and appropriate"? Are there really no differences allowed? And did you even think for a minute that such a name could actually have a respectable meaning or purpose behind it?


Also, since when is it a "restricted to blacks" sorta thing? That's the thing that's killing me the most about this thread... :rofl:

Indeed people do, but why should it be the SOLE deciding factor in whether a person should be hired or not? Is it the "foot first, brain second" ideals that if someone has an unusual name, they must be trouble and not worth your time? Since when does everything have to fit some sort of standard of living to be "just and appropriate"? Are there really no differences allowed? And did you even think for a minute that such a name could actually have a respectable meaning or purpose behind it?


Also, since when is it a "restricted to blacks" sorta thing? That's the thing that's killing me the most about this thread... :rofl:

For the most part it is. What comes to your mind when you think of Shanequa Latoya Washington.

Is it as bad as ole' Bobby Lee from Bossier city?

Why is it? What about hippies naming their kids Hillbilly Moonshine or something to that effect.

That's the point i'm trying to make earlier, such a thing isn't related only to black people....

However, your topic title and original message clearly were moving in a "single hue" pattern....

I mean, hell... Everybody's racist sometimes, there's no problem with that...

But don't try and disguise such a thing as something else once it's out in the open...

You yourself even said "let's stay on topic" when hillbillies were stated....

For the most part it is. What comes to your mind when you think of Shanequa Latoya Washington.

Is it as bad as ole' Bobby Lee from Bossier city?

I honestly couldn't tell you, since i've never thrown up ideas about a person just by hearing a name alone....

I've actually worked with quite a few "oddly" named people such as what you're referring to, and they've always been business professional... None of that "Oh GIRL.... Boss has me working hard filing these papers for him..." sorta shit that people would "expect" to come from them....

Again, it's no hidden truth that people refuse others by name alone...

But by God, it's a stupid and racial driven one....

No one is going to disregard you because oyur name end in y. Your nubian princess name gets you nowhere.

No one is going to disregard you because oyur name end in y. Your nubian princess name gets you nowhere.

And why is that? Surely the name isn't intended to gain respect and automatic status with everyone that hears it, it's just a name... Nor is it about to cause any trouble with anyone that's associated with it, unless you happen to live in a hugely racist community

Why is the name of a person such an important factor? And why are such assumptions of a person's worth and personality made on them?

I mean, hell... Everybody's racist sometimes, there's no problem with that...

Yup. If someone named Rusty Buford Johnson calls to make an appointment- I make no judgment call until I meet him and see him smile. If he has rotten teeth, I can either assume:

a) This gentleman has a piss-poor dental plan or
b) This guy is a frekin’ redneck or
c) A combination of both

You yourself even said "let's stay on topic" when hillbillies were stated....

Honestly that did kinda piss me off. You might as well say "Let's keep the conversation dedicated to the ****** names"

Honestly that did kinda piss me off. You might as well say "Let's keep the conversation dedicated to the ****** names"

Well there is a big difference between a women named Bobbie and a women name Nache'

Well people do look down upon those names its a fact. Why do blacks continue to name their children like that?

Okay, the line has to be drawn somewhere, and clearly i'm gonna have to draw it.

This topic is racist as hell, period. Draw your own conclusions why people give their children these types of names. Don't come here and ask this racist bullshit and start shit asking why people name their kids Timiquatishia.

If you're looking to get a laugh from the reasoning behind this, I can assure you that no one will find it funny, at all.

This racist shit is beginning to get a little out of hand, therefore this topic should be locked. It's pointless and is only starting a flame war. And if any other ignorant comments come about, i'll be the one blowing my flame torch.

Yup. If someone named Rusty Buford Johnson calls to make an appointment- I make no judgment call until I meet him and see him smile. If he has rotten teeth, I can either assume:

a) This gentleman has a piss-poor dental plan or
b) This guy is a frekin’ redneck or
c) A combination of both

Right, I mean it's one thing to interview a person with an odd name, fucked up personality and looks and be done with them before they even can say a word otherwise....

But to turn away a potentially beneficial addition to your workforce because their names "don't sound right" boggles my mind...

What is so ignorant about asking a question? There is an obvious stigma that goes along with some of these names. I'm wondering why people can't see ti and continue the trend.

What is so ignorant about asking a question? There is an obvious stigma that goes along with some of these names. I'm wondering why people can't see ti and continue the trend.

Asking shit that you know no one here will have the answer that you're looking for.

What do you want us to say? They were drunk at the time, high, smoking crack? Huh? Honestly, is that what you're looking for?

Asking shit that you know no one here will have the answer that you're looking for.

What do you want us to say? They were drunk at the time, high, smoking crack? Huh? Honestly, is that what you're looking for?

Just interested in other peoples input.

Well there is a big difference between a women named Bobbie and a women name Nache'

Since when, and to what extent?

Sounds more like assumptions then anything else.....

Just interested in other peoples input.

Boy, you sure worded your curiousity wrong this time around, then...

Since when, and to what extent?

Sounds more like assumptions then anything else.....

Exactly, while making an ass of himself in the process.

Granted I dont mind having a little fun just like the next person, but this was a bit extreme.

Just interested in other peoples input.
Then you should have titled your thread "Why do people choose stupid names for their kids?"

Then the approriate response from everyone would still be
:gives:

Then you should have titled your thread "Why do people choose stupid names for their kids?"

Then the approriate response from everyone would still be
:gives:


I don't see many nache's in the fairer race.

And I don't see too many black folks naming their kids 'Dale Earnhart' Johnson or Mary Jo either.

Boy, you sure worded your curiousity wrong this time around, then...

why is that?

Exactly, while making an ass of himself in the process.

Granted I dont mind having a little fun just like the next person, but this was a bit extreme.


Extreme in what way? Would a thread titled "Why do crackers name their children John, Michael, Joseph and William?" be extreme?

Extreme in what way? Would a thread titled "Why do crackers name their children John, Michael, Joseph and William?" be extreme?

No it wouldn't be anymore extreme, but it'd be just as racist.

naming their kids 'Dale Earnhart' Johnson

haha

No you don't.A nascar fanatics poor choice doesn't illustrate a long standing trend towards deralict naming.

No it wouldn't be anymore extreme, but it'd be just as racist.

Or a rock hard fact. Noticing differences amongst various races/cultures is rascist?

so you're black? Why did they choose William over Latrell or Darnell?

U forget the tough man "Tyrone"

haha

No you don't.A nascar fanatics poor choice doesn't illustrate a long standing trend towards deralict naming.

derelict naming... ?

here's a clue

people should be able to name their kids anything they want and not have others look down on them or their offspring based solely on a fucking name.

derelict naming... ?

here's a clue

people should be able to name their kids anything they want and not have others look down on them or their offspring based solely on a fucking name.

Mayeb ina perfect world. Unfortunatly, thats not the case.

Here is my take on these african "names."

People and animals are naturally prejudice. It's a survival trait that has kept animals alive and people as well.

For example, u walk around the woods, U see a Grizzly bear for the first time. If u want to die, u assume nothing of it and walk right up to it and a few days later become bear feces.

If ur prejudice, u hide, bark at it, run, and maybe even tried to turn it into human feces.

So if someone presents themselves as different (by virtue of name) then the prejudice alarms goes off. Is this person trying to make a "statement" with their name being so different? Is this person's culture or sub-culture different so that they might have a problem getting along with the existing team that have "conforming" names? ANd so on.

I'm lucky my folks gave me a "conforming" name like Alain instead of Wei hung Lo or Sum yung Guy, etc... It tells the prospective employer or whichever "team" that ur trying to "join" in that ur not here to piss against the wind. Ur here to be a team player, and that even though it's just a mere name, it has enough significance to give them the warm and fuzzy that ur a safer bet than the one that wanted to be "different".

Being different is good, only if it benefits the team. Otherwise they will see antisocial (within their circle) or rebellious attitudes.

As far as black names, why they get shit more than Asian and/or indian names is probably an issue with what each culture/race have provided to civilization which in turn can benefit the circle that this person is trying to get into.

Black culture simply do not have a strong track record when compared to asians/indians in the number of educated folks that can bring something to the table. Instead there are more negative associations (laziness, individualistic, criminal, large penis - small brain ratio that wants to get ass above work, loud behavior, etc.....) to blacks. And by adding a name that sticks out it sends a strong message that they might not want to listen to command and/or work in a team.

Dam good point there batty.

derelict naming... ?

here's a clue

people should be able to name their kids anything they want and not have others look down on them or their offspring based solely on a fucking name.


True, but in the real world (even though it's not right) people need to understand that he who has the gold makes the rules. In this case folks between the 40-60th parrallel.

And if someone is coming from an area lesser than that they need to "adjust" themselves to roll with the punches.

I suspect that there are a certain percantage of blacks that are suffering their own demise from not "conforming" if it means a paycheck.

i am also blessed with a non-asian name

it might be a cultural thing

i think blacks tend to go against the grain

while asians submerge themselves in it

its a double edged sword. asians may conform a little better, but we also don't speak out when we get shit from other races and stuff.

i am also blessed with a non-asian name

it might be a cultural thing

i think blacks tend to go against the grain

while asians submerge themselves in it

Yea, but having an asian name doesn't bring the same images to someones head as say Lakeisha.

I see a Ba Tran, I'm good to go.

How do asians name their kids?

By throwing a can down the stairs.

How do asians name their kids?

By throwing a can down the stairs.

Someone on here implied that blacks name their kids by smoking crack and recording the verbal diharrea they spew in the ensuing spasms.

....... but we also don't speak out when we get shit from other races and stuff.

True, we just bite our tongues and go back to the books, get an education that equals or exceeds that of the white man, make $$$$, save $$$, buy property, pay cash for cars, avoid credit debts and make white man our bitches without them knowing it. ;)

Gee I wonder if the blacks can figure this out........... probably not since their large penises governs the better of their higher thoughts.

Sometimes I'm glad that I'm not dragging around a Easton Bat dong between my legs, it seems to get u in more trouble than not.

Yea, but having an asian name doesn't bring the same images to someones head as say Lakeisha.

I see a Ba Tran, I'm good to go.

Im not affiliated with human resourcing and staffing, but when I came to my new team and saw. . . . . 2 employees with distinct Asian names on the payroll, I knew we were good to go (even before I met them), as I am a lead on an adjustments team that does nothing but juggle numbers all day long.

We really don't have computers in the office, just 19 FOB Asian highschoolers assigned to each person. Numbers come out right everytime.

In a perfect world, people would not be judged on their names nor their outter appearance. In the world where I sign off on payroll to get you compensated for the 40 hours you put in, it does. It's the few that came before that ruined it for everyone else. We didn't just start getting a sour taste in our mouth because we wanted to. All employers are EOE, which gets you in the door. Managers are not, which kicks you out the door if you fuck up.

Being asian does have it's benefits. I have face reverse discrimination against other races including my honky-tonk counterparts in employment and management oppurtunities.

Little did they realize that in school, during a math final, when my batteries on my HP 48 died, I failed the linear algebra exam............... as well as the 8 people that were sitting next to me. :)

BTW, what the hell is up with all the racist type threads lately?


Meddles just wasting time til his white hood comes back from the cleaners

Being asian does have it's benefits. I have face reverse discrimination against other races including my honky-tonk counterparts in employment and management oppurtunities.


I've had my fair share too. Going on a date with a grit (girl raised in the south) and have her parents yell at her asking if the child will be a yellow baby, if it'll be a freak, etc. That's a given there. Same as if an Asian girl brings a black guy home. It's taboo. I'm sure we have all experienced it in some way shape or form.

Racism exists regardless of color. White are always going to hate blacks, Asians will always have a nick against whites, and we all hate Indian's because all the tech jobs are being outsourced to them for nickles on the hour.

Meddles just wasting time til his white hood comes back from the cleaners


Nah, I was just making an observation.

Racism exists regardless of color. White are always going to hate blacks, Asians will always have a nick against whites, and we all hate Indian's because all the tech jobs are being outsourced to them for nickles on the hour.

Its not a hate thing. I think whites just can't figure out what is wrong with blacks. Why are they so obstinate as a whole?

so do you act racist to stir up trouble or because you love the aryan race?

so do you act racist to stir up trouble or because you love the aryan race?

I love the irish.

Its not a hate thing. I think whites just can't figure out what is wrong with blacks. Why are they so obstinate as a whole?

maybe hate is too strong a word. Biased opinion ;)

U mean ethnically aware, the latest PC term.

Here's my take. If we lived in perfect world people's names wouldn't matter. But we don't live in a perfect world! Why make it harder on your child named Lafonduh. She needs try that much harder to get a job and prove herself. Whereas she had a "normal" name she wouldn't have to worry as much. Wouldn't parents want a better/easier life for their kids??

What is so ignorant about asking a question? There is an obvious stigma that goes along with some of these names. I'm wondering why people can't see ti and continue the trend.

I don't see many nache's in the fairer race.

Mayeb ina perfect world. Unfortunatly, thats not the case.

Dude, make up your mind about what you're trying to do here... :rofl:

First you go and play the "What, it's just an honest question" card....

Then you bounce back and play the "OMG, Black pplz are so stupid" route, especially when BATMAN joins the scene...


Your thought process is amusing, to say the least....

Viagra of the reich arm?

I don't think my joining the scene changed anything.

which thread # did u have in mind?

Dude, make up your mind about what you're trying to do here... :rofl:

First you go and play the "What, it's just an honest question" card....

Then you bounce back and play the "OMG, Black pplz are so stupid" route, especially when BATMAN joins the scene...


Your thought process is amusing, to say the least....

I'm not following. It is an honest question.

I never claimed blacks were stupid while the topic was still names.

I hate it when people have their sensitivity race-radar on full alert and they view threads like this through a subjective window.

Here is my take on these african "names."

People and animals are naturally prejudice. It's a survival trait that has kept animals alive and people as well.

For example, u walk around the woods, U see a Grizzly bear for the first time. If u want to die, u assume nothing of it and walk right up to it and a few days later become bear feces.

If ur prejudice, u hide, bark at it, run, and maybe even tried to turn it into human feces.

So if someone presents themselves as different (by virtue of name) then the prejudice alarms goes off. Is this person trying to make a "statement" with their name being so different? Is this person's culture or sub-culture different so that they might have a problem getting along with the existing team that have "conforming" names? ANd so on.

I'm lucky my folks gave me a "conforming" name like Alain instead of Wei hung Lo or Sum yung Guy, etc... It tells the prospective employer or whichever "team" that ur trying to "join" in that ur not here to piss against the wind. Ur here to be a team player, and that even though it's just a mere name, it has enough significance to give them the warm and fuzzy that ur a safer bet than the one that wanted to be "different".

Being different is good, only if it benefits the team. Otherwise they will see antisocial (within their circle) or rebellious attitudes.

As far as black names, why they get shit more than Asian and/or indian names is probably an issue with what each culture/race have provided to civilization which in turn can benefit the circle that this person is trying to get into.

Black culture simply do not have a strong track record when compared to asians/indians in the number of educated folks that can bring something to the table. Instead there are more negative associations (laziness, individualistic, criminal, large penis - small brain ratio that wants to get ass above work, loud behavior, etc.....) to blacks. And by adding a name that sticks out it sends a strong message that they might not want to listen to command and/or work in a team.

Not a bad post... Only arguements i'd have to it are:

1.) Black people aren't "animals", despite what you decide to think....

And i'd understand if you actually had some real life bad personal experience with some black person named such a way and THAT made you wary of hiring someone, because that's just natural instinct.... But all you're going off is what you've seen and heard per se... It's still ASSUMING the worst....

You may respond with "Yeah, so we assume about names... Everyone does..."

Wrong.... That's just really a personal problem right there....


2.) If alarms go off, why the hell would you just be content with concluding such things if you're smart? If you really want to know the truth and how to handle the situation, why don't you just ASK the meaning of the name?

3.) You guys talk like someone having a name like that equals a big "Fuck you" sign pointed at your face.... It's just a name... Why are you taking it so hard?

lol, these attempts to rationalize overall racist views humor me....

It's pure racism, nothing more nothing less... The sooner you'd admit that, the better....

I hate it when people have their sensitivity race-radar on full alert and they view threads like this through a subjective window.

Agreed. It's the internet, not everyone will get along, someone will always have a bigger dick, the other person will have more hp, the list goes on. How many of that is true is beyond anyone. Point of post? Come into it with an open mind and you'll be fine.

I hate it when people have their sensitivity race-radar on full alert and they view threads like this through a subjective window.

Hah, don't get it confused.... I'm not about to call you guys Nazis or anything, nor start some sort of rally against you...

I just want you to realize what it is you're actually saying and doing....

Threads fired like this aren't as good natured and wholesome as you try and illusion it to be, that much i'm not gonna fall for... It's straight out racism...

lol, everybody's allowed to be racist sometimes, myself included... And I can tell when it's around... :D

I'm not following. It is an honest question.

I never claimed blacks were stupid while the topic was still names.

Please.... :rofl:

blah blah blah

How about this. It is just downright unprofessional to ahve a Jibba Jabba Jones on staff.

You secretarty taking calls, "This is Lafuquanasta. So and so is away from his desk. Would you like me to transfer you to his voicemail? Sho' nuff'"

How about this. It is just downright unprofessional to ahve a Jibba Jabba Jones on staff.

You secretarty taking calls, "This is Lafuquanasta. So and so is away from his desk. Would you like me to transfer you to his voicemail? Sho' nuff'"

True, that it is....

But what I wanna know is "Why do you assume that 'Lafuquanasta' is going to act ghetto as hell because of a name?"

Racism... That's what it be, yo... ;)

you said something, then edited your posts, so i quoted the wrong line



Hence that is not why I am not in human resources. All past employees that I have worked beside in front end customer services, the most ghetto people were the ones to complain and bitch about every last thing, from the $35k salary for doing basically nothing, to the quality of the wood used on the desks. They were also the worst producers when it came down to the bottom line: productivity.

Ghetto people are not limited to one skin color, regardless of how much any of you wanna throw that race card out there.

But what I wanna know is "Why do you assume that 'Lafuquanasta' is going to act ghetto as hell because of a name?"

Racism... That's what it be, yo...

Not racism, documented activities based on factual events.

Obviously you guys don't understand the meaning of Racism as i've been taught it is:


"Any attitude, action or institutional structure which systematically treats an individual or group of individuals differently because of their race."

What is this job talking about? People turning away others due to odd names....

Now what is this thread associating odd names towards? The race of people known as Blacks....


Come on people, it's not being oversensitive... It's seeing the truth of the matter...

True, that it is....

But what I wanna know is "Why do you assume that 'Lafuquanasta' is going to act ghetto as hell because of a name?"

Racism... That's what it be, yo... ;)

I'd rather not take the chance.

"Hey Bob, Tim here. I see you met the new girl. Lafuckwanasta."

I'd rather not take the chance.

"Hey Bob, Tim here. I see you met the new girl. Lafuckwanasta."

Your call... It's still racist, though... :D

Not a bad post... Only arguements i'd have to it are:

1.) Black people aren't "animals", despite what you decide to think....

:batman: Where did I say that? The Animal reference was just that so that people can understand via examples. Second, all of us are animals (living thing that is animated). I suspect that ur inferring a lack of IQ due to the word animal. U just set urself up on this one. I'll give u ample time to edit it if u choose. Race-radar on sensitive?

And i'd understand if you actually had some real life bad personal experience with some black person named such a way and THAT made you wary of hiring someone, because that's just natural instinct.... But all you're going off is what you've seen and heard per se... It's still ASSUMING the worst....

:batman: I got a hypothetical question for u. Ur a daddy. U have a 5 year old that needs to get a baby sitter. U place an ad. Some 50-year old white guy wearing tight super-hearo clothes knocks on ur door. He wears child-molestor glasses. U answer the door. He states that he is here for the job interview to take care of ur kid.

What do u do? Assume he is a molestor or have an "open mind" and give him a chance? Remember, U don't really know him. I doubt u won't be prejudice. And I am confident if a early 20's black girl that is dresses just fine and "looks" OK u'll give her the job.

I'm not talking so much about right or wrong in wither case, just how life is. Keeping it real dawg.


You may respond with "Yeah, so we assume about names... Everyone does..."

Wrong.... That's just really a personal problem right there....



2.) If alarms go off, why the hell would you just be content with concluding such things if you're smart? If you really want to know the truth and how to handle the situation, why don't you just ASK the meaning of the name?

3.) You guys talk like someone having a name like that equals a big "Fuck you" sign pointed at your face.... It's just a name... Why are you taking it so hard?

lol, these attempts to rationalize overall racist views humor me....

It's pure racism, nothing more nothing less... The sooner you'd admit that, the better....

:batman: it's not so much about the names, but what people perceive and what they default to in their rational in real life if they have no other information.

Your call... It's still racist, though... :D

It's also the real world.

How about this. It is just downright unprofessional to ahve a Jibba Jabba Jones on staff.

You secretarty taking calls, "This is Lafuquanasta. So and so is away from his desk. Would you like me to transfer you to his voicemail? Sho' nuff'"

*chokes on gum*

I'd rather not take the chance.

"Hey Bob, Tim here. I see you met the new girl. Lafuckwanasta."

"Say wha?! Whachamacallit!??!"

:batman: it's not so much about the names, but what people perceive and what they default to in their rational in real life if they have no other information.

*shrugs* Like I said, whatever you decide to do is fine by me...

I just want you to know that's racism... However, you seem to think by me saying that it is, that i've got some huge attitude or contempt for any of you....


It's not the case, and I really can say that to you because i'm racist as hell too... :rofl:


But come on, there's times when you have to call things for what they are... This would be one of those times....

It's also the real world.

Yep, that it is... But it's still racist by textbook definition...

lol, is this concept really that hard for you two to grasp?

And the one EDIT I will make for you, BATMAN:

When I said we weren't animals, I was referring back to your comments in my "Ask a Black Guy thread".....

No need for set-ups or cop-outs here, I know what I did... I only edit if I want to drop extra or rephrase my stuff so people can understand my point :D

"Say wha?! Whachamacallit!??!"

I mean if I'm on the other side of that call. The image in my mind is the worlds slowest land mammal eating a microwave burrito under her desk fileing her 7.5 inch long neon orange fingernails.

Yep, that it is... But it's still racist by textbook definition...

lol, is this concept really that hard for you two to grasp?

Maybe I'm into more real world, tangible concepts. Like what is best for me.

I never denied if that is racism have I?

DAK, u forget, that Meddle and i are probably older than u.

And with age comes experience within the context of time.

It's the young buck new generation with ADD that don't respect that.

The image in my mind is the worlds slowest land mammal eating a microwave burrito under her desk fileing her 7.5 inch long neon orange fingernails.

Thats racist stereotyping

Hell, if i were such a racist then I wouldn't have an all black car.......... it would be a white car with white rims and a red b-pillar.

I hate my gums cause they're black

Maybe I'm into more real world, tangible concepts. Like what is best for me.

K.... But the fact of the matter is, it's racist by default...

Come on, really now... I shouldn't have to keep explaining myself....


I never denied if that is racism have I?

DAK, u forget, that Meddle and i are probably older than u.

And with age comes experience within the context of time.

It's the young buck new generation with ADD that don't respect that.

True, but you guys are definately acting as if it's not and you're somehow offended that I called you such... I don't really get it... :dunno:

And true, you're both older then me... But when you've seen the things i've seen and been the places i've been, age doesn't mean jack shit... It's the paths you've taken in life that denote wisdom, not some number to gauge your existance on this world....

And yeah, it IS the young buck generation that don't respect or get that...



Hell, if i were such a racist then I wouldn't have an all black car.......... it would be a white car with white rims and a red b-pillar.


Again, you guys are taking what i'm calling you out of context....

I don't see either of you as the KKK Klansmen or typical White Supremist types, simply because you're both smarter then that (at least i'd hope...)

I'm just saying, we're all racist from something... And just as there are many variables to it, there's just as many different degrees to it....

I'm 24. My business partner is 11 years my senior. We are a small business; 3 employees for a toal of 5 in the office. We work with some of the largest manufacturing firms in the world. To do that, we ahve to maintain a high degree of professionalism. We have to project ourselves as a very large company to clients though we are not. How am I representing myself if XYZ corp. thinks I have a welfare queen taking my phone calls.

I'm 24. My business partner is 11 years my senior. We are a small business; 3 employees for a toal of 5 in the office. We work with some of the largest manufacturing firms in the world. To do that, we ahve to maintain a high degree of professionalism. We have to project ourselves as a very large company to clients though we are not. How am I representing myself if XYZ corp. thinks I have a welfare queen taking my phone calls.

Well, that's pretty awesome :D

I wish I wouldn't have to ask this, but exactly why would someone jump to those conclusions just after hearing the name of a person, espeically if that person was business professional enough to fit right into your business and be hired otherwise?

I'm just saying why is hearing a "proper name" you're familiar with or would expect to hear so important and influential in anything anyone would do, or you for example....

Now if it really went like you joked about earlier and she had the "tones" of being a ghetto girl, then by all means don't hire her ass... I know I wouldn't if I was trying to get work done....

But if we're talking about a good and decent person with just a "name flaw", why would you turn her away like that? Was it one of the two racist views you might had of such a people that would equal an instant disqualification?

If that's your personal preference, so be it.... But it's still slanted against a certain type of people, and that by existance is racism

I'm 24. My business partner is 11 years my senior. We are a small business; 3 employees for a toal of 5 in the office. We work with some of the largest manufacturing firms in the world. To do that, we ahve to maintain a high degree of professionalism. We have to project ourselves as a very large company to clients though we are not. How am I representing myself if XYZ corp. thinks I have a welfare queen taking my phone calls.

We'ere way to disgusting. We had to form our own company in order to have a work enviroment we felt comfortable in. There is porno on the tv as I type this and I am drinking a manhattan.

real "professional" :)

DAK,

In a business environment it's not uncommon to follow the principle that the customer is "always" right.

Of course we all know that is not always the case, but unless u plan robbing them, u'll have do what it takes to make sure that they are comforatble with u and ur business from the beginning.

U really have just one chance at first impression. This is even more important if there are many players that can provide the same service/goods where price becomes paramount.

But that is a tangent which I will not embark on this discussion.

If the customer base is familar with black names then so be it, hire those that possess such names. It's what they are probably accustom to.

However, if they are a heterogeneous and/or a predominently white customer base then it may serve the business best interests to hav someone that works with them that best conforms to their comfort zone, in this case someone that has an american name (neutral and unassuming) and talks and conducts him/herself like the average and prodominent american.

Why would one force change in a customer's face and risk losing their revenue potential?

DAK,

In a business environment it's not uncommon to follow the principle that the customer is "always" right.

Of course we all know that is not always the case, but unless u plan robbing them, u'll have do what it takes to make sure that they are comforatble with u and ur business from the beginning.

U really have just one chance at first impression. This is even more important if there are many players that can provide the same service/goods where price becomes paramount.

But that is a tangent which I will not embark on this discussion.

If the customer base is familar with black names then so be it, hire those that possess such names. It's what they are probably accustom to.

However, if they are a heterogeneous and/or a predominently white customer base then it may serve the business best interests to hav someone that works with them that best conforms to their comfort zone, in this case someone that has an american name (neutral and unassuming) and talks and conducts him/herself like the average and prodominent american.

Why would one force change in a customer's face and risk losing their revenue potential?

Excellent post, and I do see your points very well... Presentation and first impression is paramount to the success or failure of a business up and coming...

However justified the reasons for non-hire would be, it still does not take away from the fact that it is racist views that have made even such a thing considerable in choosing those who you hire, be it from a seller OR buyer perspetive....

I just find it sad that those like myself who are trying to make something of their lives and prosper amongst others can actually be denied of their chances due to something as small as a name....

"That's the way it is, this is the real world..."

Definately a true statement, for such obstacles and barriers are to be expected in life.... But why has racism dwelled so far up into the essence of people that it's deemed as "truth" and "unchangeable circumstance"?

Like I said before, there is not a soul alive on this world that is not racist in one form or another, so to try and pin such a thing on one group of people is absurd.... We all see other lower ends of life to other people, we all know how unfavorable they may seem to us in certain situations and we react by making fun of them...

But why let it get to the point where you fear such a group of people is not able to ever live up to your standards, and by associating yourself with them you would risk losing all that you worked for? It's man's nature to evolve, to change and adapt to the living environment that he sees fit to live in....

When all that remains of a former way of being is a name, why is that the "dead end" that guarantees rejection?

I'm not saying EVERYONE is like that, for we all have the scum and lesser entities that we look down on amongst ourselves.... But really, what if that just happened to be one of the good cases?

Racism is funny as hell, but when it gets to that level of seperation?

No thanks, i'm not about to laugh...

too much here to read but last night I heard "The ghetto called and they want their name back" on coach carter

A rose by any other name, is still a rose.

Maybe you should all remember that and not get so hung up your conceived notions of a what a group of syllables and nouns may bring.

Im gonna go with meddle and BATMAN on this one.

I know that when I call up Time Warner to get my account straightened out and get Shaquanda on the phone, I just hang up. Half the time I can't understand what she is saying, or she has a bad attittude, or sounds like she just doesn't give a fuck.

Whether or not it is right to judge someone by their name is irrelevant. The point is that people do, and will no matter what. Naming your kid Anferneekareem Mullholland the III isn't doing him any favors in life.

And now on to the racist conversation. By the definitions above, I'm racist. I judge people by observations. Why? You'd have to be stupid not to. Humans draw conclusions by making quick observations, that's how we've survived as a race. If you see a puddle on the ground at the gas station, do you go flick a cigarette in it to test to see if it's gas or not? No, you assume that it's gasoline and stay away from it. Likewise, when Terell runs towards my open window while I'm at the stoplight do I openly welcome him and ask what the problem is? No, I assume that he is some welfare scumbag either looking for a handout or looking to rob me.

Linking such behavior and actions to racism is all fine and good. Honestly, I'm prefectly fine with it. However I can guarantee you that I can walk through the ghetto on any given afternoon and point out damn near everyone that either sells coke or is unemployed, just by looking at them. Names and appearances are given negative connotations because so many people fall under that category and are involved in negative things. Line up 50 Joe Moore's and see how many deal crack. Then line up 50 Shawntel Williams and see how many deal crack. You'll have your answer right there.

Im gonna go with meddle and BATMAN on this one.

I know that when I call up Time Warner to get my account straightened out and get Shaquanda on the phone, I just hang up. Half the time I can't understand what she is saying, or she has a bad attittude, or sounds like she just doesn't give a fuck.

Whether or not it is right to judge someone by their name is irrelevant. The point is that people do, and will no matter what. Naming your kid Anferneekareem Mullholland the III isn't doing him any favors in life.

And now on to the racist conversation. By the definitions above, I'm racist. I judge people by observations. Why? You'd have to be stupid not to. Humans draw conclusions by making quick observations, that's how we've survived as a race. If you see a puddle on the ground at the gas station, do you go flick a cigarette in it to test to see if it's gas or not? No, you assume that it's gasoline and stay away from it. Likewise, when Terell runs towards my open window while I'm at the stoplight do I openly welcome him and ask what the problem is? No, I assume that he is some welfare scumbag either looking for a handout or looking to rob me.

Linking such behavior and actions to racism is all fine and good. Honestly, I'm prefectly fine with it. However I can guarantee you that I can walk through the ghetto on any given afternoon and point out damn near everyone that either sells coke or is unemployed, just by looking at them. Names and appearances are given negative connotations because so many people fall under that category and are involved in negative things. Line up 50 Joe Moore's and see how many deal crack. Then line up 50 Shawntel Williams and see how many deal crack. You'll have your answer right there.

First off, why is everyone linking such extremes to argue their points?

I hardly see how any of those examples have to do with judging people by a name alone....

I'm arguing the fact that it's silly to jump to conclusions about a person because of it, and you guys are doing exactly just that...

I'm asking why would you turn down a NORMAL business class person if they have an odd name, and you keep answering with the same "bad name must = bad personality which = auto bad news" lines in different forms... I swear, it's like you're trying to dodge the bullet altogether....

Yeah, I agree... If that person with a bad name had a bad attitude and shitty way of life, NOBODY would hire him... But what if that WASN'T the case?

What if it's just the name alone that is "off" to you? Why does this matter so much?

I mean, that SEEMED to be the core point of this thread's question....

We're talking names, not behavior typically associated with carriers of such "oddities"..... Can we please answer that question, at least?

I just want people to admit that such a thing is driven by racist views.... Try as much as you want to justifiy it, but it is what it is...

If I met with someone who had such a name during a meeting or something like that, then obviously the same wouldn't apply. Obviously he must be intelligent or driven to make it to that point in life, so I naturally wouldn't judge him by his name. I'm trying to say that giving such a name gives everyone on the outside an instant reason to have negative connotations with that person.

could be worse - I met a chick who had changed her name to 'Rainbeau'. As someone with a name people can rarely spell correctly as it is, I tried telling her that picking a name that sounded like an existing word then getting frustrated when people spell it like that, not how she wants them to spell it, is asking for a life of frustration.

But it'll make me more interesting, she retorted.

YOU would make you more interesting, says I. People are memorable for their actions or attitudes, not unconventional spellings.

She just got mad and stomped off. Most of my friends don't recall her at all, or remember her as 'that flakey chick'. Last I heard, she'd had a son and named him Jaysun.

BTW she was white.

Well i've been to work, and now i'm back and I guess i'll put in my .02 cent again.

I've talked with (insert black name here) on the phone with Charter Communications, and i'm pleased to say that i've had pleasant customer service every time i've called. So to say that every time you talk to a Tyesha for customer service will be a bad experience isn't fair.

Am I racist? To a certain extent, yes. I don't like ignorant rednecks no more than I like ignorant blacks, nor do I like when foreigners try to tell me how to do my job, when I know more about the subject at hand than they'll ever know in their lifetime. It's human nature to be slightly racist, it's how you express your views that make you ignorant. For example, labeling LaKeshia as a ignorant black girl who only wants to lay up and have babies. I know a recent Clemson graduate named LaKeshia that has a job in a Chemical lab in Charlotte making $47,000 a year. Did the name matter in her case, no.

Credentials will take you a long way. Granted, my parents didn't fawk my name up, but if my name were Taiwan Rufus Jones instead of William Bryant Samuel, I don't think I would have missed one job opportunity that i've been presented with so far. All because I know how I was raised, I know what was expected of me in the work world, and I know how to present myself in a professional manner.

If I met with someone who had such a name during a meeting or something like that, then obviously the same wouldn't apply. Obviously he must be intelligent or driven to make it to that point in life, so I naturally wouldn't judge him by his name. I'm trying to say that giving such a name gives everyone on the outside an instant reason to have negative connotations with that person.

Now that's what I wanted to hear..... :D

If only the other two would pony up and give me their answers to it, i'd be finally happy....

And you're right, it does give people a reason to think ill or differently about someone... But in that same light, it's basic racism....

Remember, i'm not calling you guys the "Good 'ol boys from the KKK" or anything when I say that....

I'm just stating that no matter what truth you think you have in saying that, nor however justified it may be in your eyes, it's bred from racism....

This is not some campaign to "give any black man a job" or whatever BS that might come to mind when you read my posts, but rather a notice and warning that for some people that deem themselves above and beyond a majority of people, they sure do have a petty way of observation....

You can be racist if you want to whatever degree you feel necessary, but i'd pray you have at least a little intelligence behind it when you act out in the world....

Well i've been to work, and now i'm back and I guess i'll put in my .02 cent again.

I've talked with (insert black name here) on the phone with Charter Communications, and i'm pleased to say that i've had pleasant customer service every time i've called. So to say that every time you talk to a Tyesha for customer service will be a bad experience isn't fair.

Am I racist? To a certain extent, yes. I don't like ignorant rednecks no more than I like ignorant blacks, nor do I like when foreigners try to tell me how to do my job, when I know more about the subject at hand than they'll ever know in their lifetime. It's human nature to be slightly racist, it's how you express your views that make you ignorant. For example, labeling LaKeshia as a ignorant black girl who only wants to lay up and have babies. I know a recent Clemson graduate named LaKeshia that has a job in a Chemical lab in Charlotte making $47,000 a year. Did the name matter in her case, no.

Credentials will take you a long way. Granted, my parents didn't fawk my name up, but if my name were Taiwan Rufus Jones instead of William Bryant Samuel, I don't think I would have missed one job opportunity that i've been presented with so far. All because I know how I was raised, I know what was expected of me in the work world, and I know how to present myself in a professional manner.

:werd:

YOU would make you more interesting, says I. People are memorable for their actions or attitudes, not unconventional spellings.

:werd: x2

Now why are people stating that the former part of your statement is automatically connected to the latter? Especially when it's not even the kid's choice in the matter as to how he's named?

I even know some girls with the names of fruits. Apple and Cherry.

Tri Trung Lee... Young Su Ho... I have not seen anyone mention odd names such as these.

There are a lot of things that define black people as a culture, most are ridiculed and mocked, and most other races are defined as well... but what defines white people as a culture... big 80's hair, mullets... it's certainly not rhythm. I could go as far as to say white people are bland and unflavored. What makes you unique as a race... the fact you have the ability to hate and criticize every other race...

If I met with someone who had such a name during a meeting or something like that, then obviously the same wouldn't apply. Obviously he must be intelligent or driven to make it to that point in life, so I naturally wouldn't judge him by his name. I'm trying to say that giving such a name gives everyone on the outside an instant reason to have negative connotations with that person.


I agree.

I have seen and meet exceptions where folks managed to make it up the ladder with their ebonics names.

Gotta give props for that.

I think it's a class thing not really a race thing. I don’t think you could find a family making over $100,000 a year name their kid something weird black white or whatever. I still think you should stick with family names for boys myself. Upper-class people won't break ranks with the norm. So when you hear of someone named something strange you instinctively think they are low class.

And that's what prejudice is, it's an instinct that most of the time will be correct. You can't deny your instincts they are what keep you alive to a certain extent. I and everyone else who are honest with them selves are prejudice. In that when you see someone or hear there name you instantly make a judgment based on what you see or hear.

Myself I always give everyone a chance and deal with someone based on their actions and not their appearance. But most of the time the first impression is correct. And I would say ugly people and fat people of any race or any name have a harder time gaining acceptance.

There are a lot of things that define black people as a culture,

1: no regards to hygiene
2: ignorance
3: theft

1: no regards to hygiene
2: ignorance
3: theft

How did you come to that conclusion?

How did you come to that conclusion?

Ive had BET since i was 8.

I think it's a class thing not really a race thing. I don’t think you could find a family making over $100,000 a year name their kid something weird black white or whatever. I still think you should stick with family names for boys myself. Upper-class people won't break ranks with the norm. So when you hear of someone named something strange you instinctively think they are low class.

And that's what prejudice is, it's an instinct that most of the time will be correct. You can't deny your instincts they are what keep you alive to a certain extent. I and everyone else who are honest with them selves are prejudice. In that when you see someone or hear there name you instantly make a judgment based on what you see or hear.

Myself I always give everyone a chance and deal with someone based on their actions and not their appearance. But most of the time the first impression is correct. And I would say ugly people and fat people of any race or any name have a harder time gaining acceptance.

THAT, my friend, is what I am talking about. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Ive had BET since i was 8.

And bad hygiene comes to mind when you look at BET? Right

1: no regards to hygiene
2: ignorance
3: theft

LOL that's a good one... now let's see...

serial killers
cannibals
bad dancers

now should every white person be defined by acts of a few bad ones... according to you and the tone of most white people, YES.

Here's one

No Insurance
Don't pay taxes
Run for the border

Now I should generalize every mexican just like this. Is that fair? No. I know great mexican people who don't fall into these categories.

LOL that's a good one... now let's see...

serial killers
cannibals
bad dancers

now should every white person be defined by acts of a few bad ones... according to you and the tone of most white people, YES.


Oh and I forgot one... PEDIPHILES... could be the reason why some like shaved women.

im just messing with you....

i love black people and the many ways they contribute to our society, please take my previous post as a joke, because we know it's the farthest thing from the truth.

im just messing with you....

i love black people and the many ways they contribute to our society, please take my previous post as a joke, because we know it's the farthest thing from the truth.

It's cool. It's all in good fun, that's why I threw in the thing about the "bad dancer"... but unfortunately, for some, it's probably the closest thing to the truth :)


http://www.djkl.com/uploads/moofies/Got2Dance.asf

I'm just saying, we're all racist from something...


The unknown and things we can't understand....

Black culture simply do not have a strong track record when compared to asians/indians in the number of educated folks that can bring something to the table.

What do you really know about black culture except the b.s. you pick up from what you see in the main stream of today? Have you ever traveled to an Asian country and was welcomed by the locals (not tourist seekers) who were complete strangers and embraced you?

Secretary of State is black, and female. I guess we still don't bring somethin to the table.

And just because Asians own restaurants and indians own hair care shops doesn't mean they're making a ton of money. And if they do, they don't have much to show for it as a majority. It's not like they're riding around in S-Class Mecedes or 7 Series BMW's. They're driving Camrys and Accords just like everyone else who makes the average of around 35k a year. Wow really high rollers. :rolleyes: I guess they're saving money to buy another hair care shop in the hood and have enough to take care of their car payment, mortgage, and be able to live a little. Hell isn't that what every middle class american does?

Asians and Indians are just as "average" as the next person. They come here to take advantage of the opportunities that we have in the US. But can we go to their homeland and set up shop?

LOL that's a good one... now let's see...

serial killers
cannibals
bad dancers

now should every white person be defined by acts of a few bad ones... according to you and the tone of most white people, YES.

*chokes and spits out crackers*

Secretary of State is black, and female. I guess we still don't bring somethin to the table.



And she's Republican.

Republican blacks are usually exempt from these stereotypes ;)

BTW, u forgot Powell.

And she's Republican.

Republican blacks are usually exempt from these stereotypes ;)

BTW, u forgot Powell.

No they aren't exempt, they're still black.

I have conservative views on many issues (Welfare, Medicaid,etc.), but I don't always agree with what most conservatives have to say. Does that make me exempt? No.

And she's Republican.

Republican blacks are usually exempt from these stereotypes ;)

BTW, u forgot Powell.

I may voice out on some things, but politics isn't one of them... Republican/Democratic argument for black people is historically incorrect.

No they aren't exempt, they're still black.

I have conservative views on many issues (Welfare, Medicaid,etc.), but I don't always agree with what most conservatives have to say. Does that make me exempt? No.


I may voice out on some things, but politics isn't one of them... Republican/Democratic argument for black people is historically incorrect.

I may voice out on some things, but politics isn't one of them... Republican/Democratic argument for black people is historically incorrect.

Yea the last thing I wanna get into is my political opinions. So I guess we should get back to the issue at hand.

There are a lot of things that define black people as a culture, most are ridiculed and mocked, and most other races are defined as well... but what defines white people as a culture... big 80's hair, mullets... it's certainly not rhythm. I could go as far as to say white people are bland and unflavored. What makes you unique as a race... the fact you have the ability to hate and criticize every other race...

*cough* 70's-80's 5W-20 Afro-sheen *cough*

I agree.

I have seen and meet exceptions where folks managed to make it up the ladder with their ebonics names.

Gotta give props for that.


Ok, so that makes two...

Now where's Meddle at with his response?

*cough* 70's-80's 5W-20 Afro-sheen *cough*


Haha! Yeah, how about t-shirts that go down to your ankles? Or how about the fact that black guys NEVER wear shorts? It could be 140 out and they'd still have on their gay ass thug jeans.

And since you're on the subject of criminals, how come every prison work crew I see is made up of black guys?

Haha! Yeah, how about t-shirts that go down to your ankles? Or how about the fact that black guys NEVER wear shorts? It could be 140 out and they'd still have on their gay ass thug jeans.

And since you're on the subject of criminals, how come every prison work crew I see is made up of black guys?

Dude, I just hate shorts... lol, I wear jeans 24/7... Mind you, they fit well and don't have that "low rise under my ass" feel, but they're jeans nonetheless...

And the prision work crew thing is subjective to area... I've seen a mostly white and hispanic line before around here, but you aren't about to see me car the lot of you crooks...

*cough* 70's-80's 5W-20 Afro-sheen *cough*


Afros do define part of our culture. Notice people still wear them today. I see you have proven my point at being able to criticize. Maybe hatred is part of your culture.

Ok, so that makes two...

Now where's Meddle at with his response?

I'm fair.

But most of my eruptions stems from flipping on the news and hearing blacks demand formal apologies and reparations for whites taking them outta Africa (a shittier place, I might add).

The thing is that they want American tax payers, the generation and race of people that had NOTHING to do with it, to pay up.

I heard no blacks standing up to it publicly and saying that is dumb.

Instead i get mutes.

Afros do define part of our culture. Notice people still wear them today. I see you have proven my point at being able to criticize. Maybe hatred is part of your culture.
*cough* double standard *cough-cough*

I'm fair.

But most of my eruptions stems from flipping on the news and hearing blacks demand formal apologies and reparations for whites taking them outta Africa (a shittier place, I might add).

The thing is that they want American tax payers, the generation and race of people that had NOTHING to do with it, to pay up.

I heard no blacks standing up to it publicly and saying that is dumb.

Instead i get mutes.

You are incorrect... Have you seen or read the teachings of Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan? I do believe Bill Cosby voiced it publically as well. I'm sure there are other that have, but to say "NO blacks" is about as blind as your statement.

*cough* double standard *cough-cough*
Please explain... I don't hate, but it's apparent that you do.

I know bill is against it, but when I flipped on Foxnews I didn't see him or any blacks against that.

I suspect that even though many will not agree with demands for reparations, they will wait silently for the check and cash it in.

Why not just work the system.

I wait silently because I know that demanding of such is stupid and will never come to light...

Besides, why are you so on it about reparations? If black people are as irresponsible and lacking of the ability to plan ahead for the future as you said they are, they'd probably just turn right back around and practically GIVE that money right back to the government...

What with the obsession of material possesions and expensive toys black people "seem to have", it would probably boost the economy tenfold....

I know bill is against it, but when I flipped on Foxnews I didn't see him or any blacks against that.

I suspect that even though many will not agree with demands for reparations, they will wait silently for the check and cash it in.

Why not just work the system.


And why not? You seem to be speaking as to who voices their opinion and who doesn't. There are a lot of things you will never see or hear (especially from the south) that are not fair. I think it's all a balancing act. Racial incidents happen here all the time that no white person speaks out against... how many remain silent? They probably don't agree with it either but will ignore it and pretend like it's not a problem until the finger is pointed and then and only then will a white voice be heard.

Please explain... I don't hate, but it's apparent that you do.
You made a defining comment about mullets/80's hair = white, I made a defining comment about 80's afro-sheen = black.

That was just as innocuous as your comment- yet I am filled with bias and hate while you are not?

That- is a double standard.

There are a lot of things you will never see or hear (especially from the south) that are not fair. I think it's all a balancing act. Racial incidents happen here all the time that no white person speaks out against... how many remain silent? They probably don't agree with it either but will ignore it and pretend like it's not a problem until the finger is pointed and then and only then will a white voice be heard.

:werd:


You made a defining comment about mullets/80's hair = white, I made a defining comment about 80's afro-sheen = black.

That was just as innocuous as your comment- yet I am filled with bias and hate while you are not?

That- is a double standard.


:werd: x2

You made a defining comment about mullets/80's hair = white, I made a defining comment about 80's afro-sheen = black.

That was just as innocuous as your comment- yet I am filled with bias and hate while you are not?

That- is a double standard.


Nope, mullets/80's hair was a fad... or does it really define part of the white culture? If so, please show me proof of this.

Nope, mullets/80's hair was a fad... or does it really define part of the white culture? If so, please show me proof of this.
How does relaxer or afro-sheen define the essence of black culture? If it does- your perception of cultural identity is surely skewed (or heavily influenced) by marketing.

Edit- and furthermore, how do you justify slapping a 'hate-monger' label on me for such an innocuous statement?

How does relaxer or afro-sheen define the essence of black culture? If it does- your perception of cultural identity is surely skewed (or heavily influenced) by marketing.

Edit- and furthermore, how do you justify slapping a 'hate-monger' label on me for such an innocuous statement?


It doesn't. Now, if you had stated high-top fades (Kid N Play) or jerri-curls (Ready For The World) that would have been a different story.


Edit- I made an assumption, never said it was a correct one. Just like an assumption that started this thread. Is it incorrect as well? How can someone justify slapping a label on something as innocent as a name? Full circle.

Please explain... I don't hate, but it's apparent that you do.

That's a pretty bold assumption. Let's re-cap:

It is apparent that YOU HATE.

apparent
1 : open to view : VISIBLE
2 : clear or manifest to the understanding
3 : appearing as actual to the eye or mind
4 : having an indefeasible right to succeed to a title or estate
5 : manifest to the senses or mind as real or true on the basis of evidence that may or may not be factually valid

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=apparent

Now I've been called a few things in my life, including but not limited to asshole, dick-wad, pecker-head, dip-shit, dumb-fuck, bastard (that's a common one), tight-wad, hick, moron, drunken-bastard (another common one) etc.. ad naseum.

Feel free to pick from the above list. However 'racist hate-monger' is not one of them.

I know bill is against it, but when I flipped on Foxnews I didn't see him or any blacks against that.

I suspect that even though many will not agree with demands for reparations, they will wait silently for the check and cash it in.

Why not just work the system.

Fox News :rolleyes: I can already see why you have such a narrow minded POV.

You know what really eats away at me the most, is that even when someone black makes a contribution to society, everyone tends to overlook it. And here's a question, why is there such an emphasis on all the negative things that happen in our culture. It may happens more in our culture than others, but there's many reasons for that, and I really don't want to get into that.

This was a discussion about the reasoning behind some of the odd names that some black parents give their children, and now it's a discussion of pretty much how crappy "we" are as a race? Well guess what, we can sit here and bitch and complain, but what does that do? Nothing.

I'm black, i'm educated, financially stable, and i'm getting ahead. DAK is in the same boat. Although people like ourselves aren't in the majority, but there are a lot of educated black people just like us that exist.

Hell if we wanna criticize different ethnic groups, do it. But posting opinions about the worst of the worst in the black culture isn't doing anything but telling us what we already know. No matter what race you are, black, white, mexican, asian, etc. If you're poor and uneducated, there aren't many opportunities for you and you're more likely to become a criminal. This is not a problem that is "just" among blacks.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ap/07052/3106_teen_killed_in_ax_attack.html

That's a pretty bold assumption. Let's re-cap:



apparent
1 : open to view : VISIBLE
2 : clear or manifest to the understanding
3 : appearing as actual to the eye or mind
4 : having an indefeasible right to succeed to a title or estate
5 : manifest to the senses or mind as real or true on the basis of evidence that may or may not be factually valid

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=apparent

Now I've been called a few things in my life, including but not limited to asshole, dick-wad, pecker-head, dip-shit, dumb-fuck, bastard (that's a common one), tight-wad, hick, moron, drunken-bastard (another common one) etc.. ad naseum.

Feel free to pick from the above list. However 'racist hate-monger' is not one of them.

Well, please explain your purpose for pointing out "70's-80's 5W-20 Afro-sheen" when 5w-20 is obviously an automotive motor oil. What does that have to do with oil sheen for your hair? Adding sarcasm to a serious conversation can be misleading.

Baby Usher,

I like flushing out the Liberals............ I happen to watch MSNBC more (hotter chics) and CNN.

And I watch 60-minutes almost every week.

Ur narrow mind is the fact that u forgot to ask me if i watch other channels/stations.

Since I watch more Left-stations and 1 reich-wing station, what does that make me?

Well, please explain your purpose for pointing out "70's-80's 5W-20 Afro-sheen" when 5w-20 is obviously an automotive motor oil. What does that have to do with oil sheen for your hair? Adding sarcasm to a serious conversation can be misleading.
Bland and unflavored culture.. No rhythm... mullets and 80's doos.

What was the purpose of illustrating that? Most importantly- where does that add credence to an otherwise 'serious' conversation?

They don't. You made a fallible statement to which I retorted with an equally fallible statement. However- you chose to brand me as some transgressor. All I simply did was throw the hot potato back at you.

Baby Usher,

I like flushing out the Liberals............ I happen to watch MSNBC more (hotter chics) and CNN.

And I watch 60-minutes almost every week.

Ur narrow mind is the fact that u forgot to ask me if i watch other channels/stations.

Since I watch more Left-stations and 1 reich-wing station, what does that make me?

Well you used Fox News in your post, so I pointed it out. People who watch Fox News often aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer. I'd say they're more like the average joe who "thinks" he knows a thing or two about politics, and is blinded by his own political views; blinded enough to vote for a candidate b/c of their political affiliation, not because of his agenda.

At least that's the audience that they tend to aim for. Apparently it's working.

You know what really eats away at me the most, is that even when someone black makes a contribution to society, everyone tends to overlook it. And here's a question, why is there such an emphasis on all the negative things that happen in our culture. It may happens more in our culture than others, but there's many reasons for that, and I really don't want to get into that.

This was a discussion about the reasoning behind some of the odd names that some black parents give their children, and now it's a discussion of pretty much how crappy "we" are as a race? Well guess what, we can sit here and bitch and complain, but what does that do? Nothing.

I'm black, i'm educated, financially stable, and i'm getting ahead. DAK is in the same boat. Although people like ourselves aren't in the majority, but there are a lot of educated black people just like us that exist.

Hell if we wanna criticize different ethnic groups, do it. But posting opinions about the worst of the worst in the black culture isn't doing anything but telling us what we already know. No matter what race you are, black, white, mexican, asian, etc. If you're poor and uneducated, there aren't many opportunities for you and you're more likely to become a criminal. This is not a problem that is "just" among blacks.

Bland and unflavored culture.. No rhythm... mullets and 80's doos.

What was the purpose of illustrating that? Most importantly- where does that add credence to an otherwise 'serious' conversation?

They don't. You made a fallible statement to which I retorted with an equally fallible statement. However- you chose to brand me as some transgressor. All I simply did was throw the hot potato back at you.


I was stating the truth that most white people don't have rhythm and most are bland and unflavored. I was being serious... :swords:

You know what really eats away at me the most, is that even when someone black makes a contribution to society, everyone tends to overlook it. And here's a question, why is there such an emphasis on all the negative things that happen in our culture. It may happens more in our culture than others, but there's many reasons for that, and I really don't want to get into that.

This was a discussion about the reasoning behind some of the odd names that some black parents give their children, and now it's a discussion of pretty much how crappy "we" are as a race? Well guess what, we can sit here and bitch and complain, but what does that do? Nothing.

I'm black, i'm educated, financially stable, and i'm getting ahead. DAK is in the same boat. Although people like ourselves aren't in the majority, but there are a lot of educated black people just like us that exist.

Hell if we wanna criticize different ethnic groups, do it. But posting opinions about the worst of the worst in the black culture isn't doing anything but telling us what we already know. No matter what race you are, black, white, mexican, asian, etc. If you're poor and uneducated, there aren't many opportunities for you and you're more likely to become a criminal. This is not a problem that is "just" among blacks.

*clap-clap-clap-clap*

Well you used Fox News in your post, so I pointed it out. People who watch Fox News often aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer. I'd say they're more like the average joe who "thinks" he knows a thing or two about politics, and is blinded by his own political views; blinded enough to vote for a candidate b/c of their political affiliation, not because of his agenda.

At least that's the audience that they tend to aim for. Apparently it's working.

Site specific examples of why they tend to the dumber crowd.

I certainly don't see the other side as the smarter half. If they were, they would have been smart enough to have orchestrated a win for Kerry. Not a second lost to Bush.

Of course the liberals, who u appear to show a lust for, are not blinded by their views.

Don't u hate urself for being so smucking fart?

I was stating the truth that most white people don't have rhythm and most are bland and unflavored. I was being serious... :swords:
If that is your perception of truth, than you are no better than those that perceive all 'oddly-named' persons of color as 'disadvantaged'.

What makes you so sure that i'm a liberal?

If that is your perception of truth, than you are no better than those that perceive all 'oddly-named' persons of color as 'disadvantaged'.

Wow, I didn't expect that statement to come from you...

If that is your perception of truth, than you are no better than those that perceive all 'oddly-named' persons of color as 'disadvantaged'.

Well, that might be the case. Since you obviously don't have a problem with them, why have one with me?

You know what really eats away at me the most, is that even when someone black makes a contribution to society, everyone tends to overlook it. And here's a question, why is there such an emphasis on all the negative things that happen in our culture. It may happens more in our culture than others, but there's many reasons for that, and I really don't want to get into that.

This was a discussion about the reasoning behind some of the odd names that some black parents give their children, and now it's a discussion of pretty much how crappy "we" are as a race? Well guess what, we can sit here and bitch and complain, but what does that do? Nothing.

I'm black, i'm educated, financially stable, and i'm getting ahead. DAK is in the same boat. Although people like ourselves aren't in the majority, but there are a lot of educated black people just like us that exist.

Hell if we wanna criticize different ethnic groups, do it. But posting opinions about the worst of the worst in the black culture isn't doing anything but telling us what we already know. No matter what race you are, black, white, mexican, asian, etc. If you're poor and uneducated, there aren't many opportunities for you and you're more likely to become a criminal. This is not a problem that is "just" among blacks.

I got news for u. The media (mostly liberal majority) controls most of the media. The media love to focus on the negative aspects. It's more exciting and newsworthy.

I'm glad that ur black and educated like DAK. We need more of that. So what do u think is causing blacks to progress so slowly as a whole when other races like Asians and Indians tend to have a higher standard and level of education? Cultural priorities?

Well, that might be the case. Since you obviously don't have a problem with them, why have one with me?
Have you even read any of my previous comments regarding this issue of 'names' ?

If that is your perception of truth, than you are no better than those that perceive all 'oddly-named' persons of color as 'disadvantaged'.


As I stated earlier...

And why not? You seem to be speaking as to who voices their opinion and who doesn't. There are a lot of things you will never see or hear (especially from the south) that are not fair. I think it's all a balancing act. Racial incidents happen here all the time that no white person speaks out against... how many remain silent? They probably don't agree with it either but will ignore it and pretend like it's not a problem until the finger is pointed and then and only then will a white voice be heard.

Say white people dont have rhythym and cant dance, do we get angry? no.
Tell black beings they're lazy, ignorant, and worthless, do they get angry? yes, because they know there's a lot of truth behind it.

Black people as a culture (there's obviously exceptions) should not be considered human. The same goes for white trash and any other pieces of crap, however MOST black people are trash, never plan on doing anything except getting high, drinking, and popping out cubs for an excuse to not have to work.

Dont believe me? go look at your local apartment complexes.
At least trailer trash people tend to work.

Bill cosby even says, as a race, blacks are ignorant.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=892020&page=1

Wow, I didn't expect that statement to come from you...
How so?

I was stating the truth that most white people don't have rhythm and most are bland and unflavored. I was being serious... :swords:

How are they bland and unflavored?

Look at the buildings white folks erected. Start with Europe. Look at their cars. If anything those cars get butched with dubs and chrome this and that by non-whites.

I don't recall black food tasting as good as Pizza, Spagetti, golush, etc. As a matter of fact I don't ever recall seeing a "black restaraunt"

I hope KFC is not an example of one.

As far as music is concern, no arguement on the Rap, if u call that music. Same goes for Heavy Metal, if u call that music.

Dancing? There is all sorts of dancing disciplines. Anyone see Holyfield on that reality show where he is trying to Tango and he is looking like a bafoon.

The list goes on and on.

Batman,

Your recent question will require a very long reply. You'll receive it within 3-5 Business hours;)

Wow, I didn't expect that statement to come from you...


U have much to learn..........

How are they bland and unflavored?

Look at the buildings white folks erected. Start with Europe. Look at their cars. If anything those cars get butched with dubs and chrome this and that by non-whites.

I don't recall black food tasting as good as Pizza, Spagetti, golush, etc. As a matter of fact I don't ever recall seeing a "black restaraunt"

I hope KFC is not an example of one.

As far as music is concern, no arguement on the Rap, if u call that music. Same goes for Heavy Metal, if u call that music.

Dancing? There is all sorts of dancing disciplines. Anyone see Holyfield on that reality show where he is trying to Tango and he is looking like a bafoon.

The list goes on and on.

You've nver had real mac n cheese from a black person cooking it. I'll tell you first hand, it tastes a lot better than anything you'll ever have in a restaurant.

U have much to learn..........

And that means?

Considering what he said earlier, I didn't expect that comment to come from him.

I think you have to learn more about me.

Have you even read any of my previous comments regarding this issue of 'names' ?

No, but I will do so now...

If anything, don't blacks owe white folks a BIG thank u for taking them outta Africa and upgrading their quality of life?

Imagine if no one visited Africa.

1000 years later they would still be the same. Well, maybe they might figure out the square wheel.

I think you have to learn more about me.

And u have much to learn about me Grasshopper.

No, but I will do so now...
I'll help- here.

Maybe in 100 years biblical names will be looked down upon.
What was once common 200 years ago would be out of the question today:

Ebenezer
Ezechial
Jebidiah
Efraim

Ethel
Gertrude
.....

net/net- who cares?

Damn right it is. No door is automiatically 'closed' based on a name. The door is shut based on the asshole behind it.

Yup. If someone named Rusty Buford Johnson calls to make an appointment- I make no judgment call until I meet him and see him smile. If he has rotten teeth, I can either assume:

a) This gentleman has a piss-poor dental plan or
b) This guy is a frekin’ redneck or
c) A combination of both

Then you should have titled your thread "Why do people choose stupid names for their kids?"

Then the approriate response from everyone would still be
:gives:

And I don't see too many black folks naming their kids 'Dale Earnhart' Johnson or Mary Jo either.

A rose by any other name, is still a rose.

Maybe you should all remember that and not get so hung up your conceived notions of a what a group of syllables and nouns may bring.

When should you know you're owned just as you were 200 years ago?

When you're presented that as a culture, you're ignorant, lazy, have no regards to hygiene, a leech on society and have no plans of changing for the most part.....

and the absolute best you can do is....."YOU CANT PIMP YO RIDE AND DANCE"

shut up, you lose.

If anything, don't blacks owe white folks a BIG thank u for taking them outta Africa and upgrading their quality of life?

Imagine if no one visited Africa.

1000 years later they would still be the same. Well, maybe they might figure out the square wheel.

Do you know anything about black culture in Africa? To even make such an ignorant statement?

You've nver had real mac n cheese from a black person cooking it. I'll tell you first hand, it tastes a lot better than anything you'll ever have in a restaurant.

I doubt that, there isn't any real talent behind cooking a burger. More like simple spinal reflex. Otherwise u'd see them on menus in 5-star restaurants all over.

Apparently u haven't been to many restaurants outside of ur turf.

Or should I say, do you know anything at all about black culture in Africa over the past 2000 years, to say that 1000 years later, things would be the same?

Do you know anything about black culture in Africa? To even make such an ignorant statement?

I will answer that for him... NO!

Do you know anything about black culture in Africa? To even make such an ignorant statement?

was that a question about culture?

or their abilities?

I doubt that, there isn't any real talent behind cooking a burger. More like simple spinal reflex. Otherwise u'd see them on menus in 5-star restaurants all over.

Apparently u haven't been to many restaurants outside of ur turf.

What makes you so sure that I haven't been to many restaurants outside of my "turf"?

was that a question about culture?

or their abilities?

You take your pick.

What would you have done if the "white man" would have closed the borders?

When you're presented that as a culture, you're ignorant, lazy, have no regards to hygiene, a leech on society and have no plans of changing for the most part.....

shut up, you lose.

I wouldn't go that far.

I have 4 black friends. Very educated. No accent. No gimp. Eat Sushi.

Like me they are pretty much domesticated. They know the way to prosperity to to assimulate into the dominent ways of making a better life for them and their family.

What makes you so sure that I haven't been to many restaurants outside of my "turf"?

Ur black burger comment.

Do you know anything about black culture in Africa? To even make such an ignorant statement?
He's just pissed because his Asian pee-pee looks like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Threerun533/08-17inchworm.jpg

Compared to African American pee-pee that looks like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Threerun533/anaconda.jpg

Ur black burger comment.

Where did I mention the word "burger"? Please find that for me.

You take your pick.

What would you have done if the "white man" would have closed the borders?

Is this a question about African culture as u had originally stated?

I wouldn't go that far.

I have 4 black friends. Very educated. No accent. No gimp. Eat Sushi.

Like me they are pretty much domesticated. They know the way to prosperity to to assimulate into the dominent ways of making a better life for them and their family.

So if this is the case, what is your problem with blacks as a whole?

In case it didn't occur to you, there are blacks here that fall into that same exact genre.

Well, that's pretty awesome :D


I'm just saying why is hearing a "proper name" you're familiar with or would expect to hear so important and influential in anything anyone would do, or you for example....



Well for one, I work 80% of the time in the southeastern US. I think we know how whites tend to feel down there.

Well for one, I work 80% of the time in the southeastern US. I think we know how whites tend to feel down there.

How do whites feel in the south?

Where did I mention the word "burger"? Please find that for me.

my bad, i read that too fast and thought it was Big Mac.

Mac n cheese.

where is the talent there? Ingredients are simple compared to other more complicated dishes.

Second, I don't recall mac n cheese being a black invention. That includes their seperate components.

For u to make such a bold statement about mac n cheese must mean that u have traveled the world to been a true mac n cheese taster.

How do whites feel in the south?
Mostly hot n' sweaty. At least I do.

How do whites feel in the south?

They feel people like me need to learn my place... some feel threatened by an educated black man.

Why do you think dick size matters?

70% of women have and never will experience a vaginal penetration orgasm.

Furthermore, the dick size has nothing to do with the stimulation of the above method.

Once you get into the stage of your life when you begin to experience sexual intercourse, you will learn that having a "gigantic" dick can hurt you more than harm you.

Why? Too painful for normal, clean girls. The only ones that could stand to be with you are nasty bitches (see tjgosurf's roommate thread)
Oooooohhh... sorry about your luck at the penis lottery...

my bad, i read that too fast and thought it was Big Mac.

Mac n cheese.

where is the talent there? Ingredients are simple compared to other more complicated dishes.

Second, I don't recall mac n cheese being a black invention. That includes their seperate components.

For u to make such a bold statement about mac n cheese must mean that u have traveled the world to been a true mac n cheese taster.

I've tasted many different variations of mac n cheese, and culturally speaking, I know what tastes best IMO.

I don't like tasteless, soul-less food. And no i'm not at risk for heart attack or diabetes, and I'm a very healthy eater.

So if this is the case, what is your problem with blacks as a whole?

In case it didn't occur to you, there are blacks here that fall into that same exact genre.

I never said that there weren't.

Who invented macaroni and cheese? What is the connection with the U.S. Presidency?
Macaroni and cheese was invented by the third president of the United States, Thomas Jefferson. It continues to be a favorite Presidential dish. If you want to know more, including Ronald Reagan's recipe, check out the History of "Real" Macaroni and Cheese.

I'm well aware who invented mac n cheese. Non western civ from my freshman year of college.

Nor did I say we "invented" mac n cheese. But when someone of color, if you will, cooks it, it tastes better than most mac n cheese dishes i've had.

They feel people like me need to learn my place... some feel threatened by an educated black man.

I certainly don't feel threaten by anyone educated.

It's the opposite that I'm worried about.

I've tasted many different variations of mac n cheese, and culturally speaking, I know what tastes best IMO.

I don't like tasteless, soul-less food. And no i'm not at risk for heart attack or diabetes, and I'm a very healthy eater.

This portion is subjective at best.

Of course we can discuss the difference between black tongues and other races.

As far as I can see it all looks pink.

Are the taste buds longer and thicker?

http://medic.med.uth.tmc.edu/inline/inlnimg/00000670.gif

With whites folks it's either small or big.

Seldom do they know mediocre/average.

This portion is subjective at best.



I never said that it wasn't. Shit is subjective to taste. Some may think it taste good, others may think it tastes like shit.

You're stating the obvious.

"educated black man"

lol.

Come now. there is no need for that.

If anything educated anyone (blacks, muslims, etc.) is better for all of us.

Im secure with mine, obviously you arent or you wouldnt feel any need whatsoever to insinuate that someone else has a smaller penis than you.
No problems here, mate ;) .

(and sometimes a joke is just a joke)

MAN everyone is edgy!

I certainly don't feel threaten by anyone educated.

It's the opposite that I'm worried about.

If you lived here, you would probably experience some of the same attitudes I do.

I never said that it wasn't. Shit is subjective to taste. Some may think it taste good, others may think it tastes like shit.

You're stating the obvious.

next time i'll let u know when i'm sarcastic.

perhaps u should register on the rx7club, if u haven't, do a search under my name and get brought up to speed.

If you lived here, you would probably experience some of the same attitudes I do.

U might be right.

Then again u don't know some of the life experiences I faced being a non-white.

I handled it differently.

Deal with it.

Roll with the punches.

Get educated.

Good job.

an IPO

and the rest is history.



White folks hatred of blacks stemmed from their jealous nature of the black cock.

If blacks were small - medium then they probably wouldn't end up in their radar.

Would a black man trade equality on all counts for that to change or is possessing a large Easton Bat paramount to them?

"educated black man"

lol.

That's how "they" reacted until they found out I knew more than they did... then they became threatened...

U might be right.

Then again u don't know some of the life experiences I faced being a non-white.

I handled it differently.

Deal with it.

Roll with the punches.

Get educated.

Good job.

an IPO

and the rest is history.



White folks hatred of blacks stemmed from their jealous nature of the black cock.

If blacks were small - medium then they probably wouldn't end up in their radar.

Would a black man trade equality on all counts for that to change or is possessing a large Easton Bat paramount to them?

Has anyone ever tied a noose and placed it on your desk for you to find the next day? How would you handle that?

I know I wouldn't.

As a matter of fact, if I were starting up a company, I would want a very diverse group.

Diversity brings more to the table in talent, granted that people have similar educational backgrounds.

It's all about being Heterogeneous at the end of the day.

White folks feel helpless if blacks are smarter.

What's more threatening than a big person with a large brain and wee wee?

That's Alpha Male right there.

Has anyone ever tied a noose and placed it on your desk for you to find the next day? How would you handle that?

Has anyone made fun of ur eyes and penis size (without knowing this part)?

http://www.illstreet.com/forums/threadedpost41040.html#post41040

any thoughts?

I dont hate blacks, I dont care enough about them to "hate" them.

Ive never met an intelligent black person though.

Sure, 1 out of 1000 can study hard and get an education.....but as far is learning ability and being analytical.....ive never encountered one.
Man am I glad you have that disclaimer in your signature! :rofl:

So what do u think is causing blacks to progress so slowly as a whole when other races like Asians and Indians tend to have a higher standard and level of education? Cultural priorities?

Its that big ass donkey dick. I thought you already covered that.
:)

I have yet to hear a black man say this:

If I had a choice, I would rather be equipped with a smaller penis for equality and no racism directed at me.

But, instead, GOD gave them this endowment so that they gimp home knowing that at the end of the day, GOD gave them their pendulum to make women go in spasms of pleasure.

Batman,

What i'm not understanding is what "exactly" is your problem with african american culture. This doesn't just apply to you, but to everyone who has a problem with it.

We as a culture know that we aren't as educated. But here is there the problem lies, and this goes back to your question earlier.

Education is a huge problem. It's been a problem for the past 400 years in America with African Americans. Slowly, this is changing.

The uneducated can't differentiate reality from television/entertainment. So when a entertainer says he's been "bussin' caps" in niggaz, the uneducated and ignorant think it's cool to shoot and kill people.

The educated don't have time to deal with the slackers, so the process of prospering as a whole is at a snail's pace.

Financially, a large portion of african americans are dependent on government funding so they can be "Ghetto Fab", drive a used Tahoe on 24"s, have 5 kids, and have my tax dollars take car of them.

Do I have a problem with these stereotypes/facts? Hell yea I do. Do I have time to tell Tyrone to get off his ass and get a taxable income? Nope. Would I like to help? Sure. But in this day and age, there isn't enough time to pull the slakers' weight, so the educated or sophisticated blacks who are financially stable, educated, and can get the finer things in life don't worry about it and kinda push it under the rug. I'm guity of this. Do I feel bad? Nope. I'm about to graduate from college soon, I have a good job, and I don't have any problems finding a job.

You know what really eats away at me the most, is that even when someone black makes a contribution to society, everyone tends to overlook it. And here's a question, why is there such an emphasis on all the negative things that happen in our culture. It may happens more in our culture than others, but there's many reasons for that, and I really don't want to get into that.

This was a discussion about the reasoning behind some of the odd names that some black parents give their children, and now it's a discussion of pretty much how crappy "we" are as a race? Well guess what, we can sit here and bitch and complain, but what does that do? Nothing.

I'm black, i'm educated, financially stable, and i'm getting ahead. DAK is in the same boat. Although people like ourselves aren't in the majority, but there are a lot of educated black people just like us that exist.

Hell if we wanna criticize different ethnic groups, do it. But posting opinions about the worst of the worst in the black culture isn't doing anything but telling us what we already know. No matter what race you are, black, white, mexican, asian, etc. If you're poor and uneducated, there aren't many opportunities for you and you're more likely to become a criminal. This is not a problem that is "just" among blacks.

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When should you know you're owned just as you were 200 years ago?

When you're presented that as a culture, you're ignorant, lazy, have no regards to hygiene, a leech on society and have no plans of changing for the most part.....

and the absolute best you can do is....."YOU CANT PIMP YO RIDE AND DANCE"

shut up, you lose.


Why do you think dick size matters?

70% of women have and never will experience a vaginal penetration orgasm.

Furthermore, the dick size has nothing to do with the stimulation of the above method.

Once you get into the stage of your life when you begin to experience sexual intercourse, you will learn that having a "gigantic" dick can hurt you more than harm you.

Why? Too painful for normal, clean girls. The only ones that could stand to be with you are nasty bitches (see tjgosurf's roommate thread)


Ok, NOW this thread is getting out of hand... It's not even on topic anymore, just a bunch of posting trying to justify personal racist views... And yes, i'm talking about just about EVERYONE still talking now....

BTW, i'm just gonna note something... "Presented" and "are" are two different things, hombre... People show what sells and captivates the audience...

If you're basing your entire statement on things you've seen from the TV without a HINT of personal experience or research, your arguements are flawed....

It's like you're trying to fire a missle at a target, but you're guesstimating the
trajectory and coordinates... You fail it....

P.S. WTF is up with your "if they can take a big wang, they're nasty" comment? That's just fucking stupid... Since when do vaginas have goddamn size restrictions? Is there some sort of zoning laws that pertain to the cooter? And what about other kinds of guys that got blessed with the "magic stick".... That mean they're fucked up and stupid too?

Please, end yourself now... You aren't even making sense....

Its that big ass donkey dick. I thought you already covered that.
:)

Gotta remind some people of that.

There are those that are already born with superior dick size and yet when they get the "equality" treatment, they will actually tip the balance in their favor.

Hence they will be the superior race.

I have yet to hear a black man say this:

If I had a choice, I would rather be equipped with a smaller penis for equality and no racism directed at me.

But, instead, GOD gave them this endowment so that they gimp home knowing that at the end of the day, GOD gave them their pendulum to make women go in spasms of pleasure.

Equality can be gained, racism can be overcome... a small pee pee is a different story :lmfao:

What I wanna know is:

Since when does having a large wang = being a better lover?

And how does being a better lover mean being superior then everyone else?

Why does it matter that you can "bottom out" on a girl and some other guy can't?


I fail to see how penis dimensions = having some sort of "leg up" (no pun intented) on everyone else.... Seriously, if that's the true reason why white people hate on blacks, that's pretty damn sad.....

This just in.....DAK and Babyusher are "in the same boat"

dont forget to take a few cousins with you.

:wiggle:
You are one dumb mother-fucker.

Batman,

What i'm not understanding is what "exactly" is your problem with african american culture. This doesn't just apply to you, but to everyone who has a problem with it.

We as a culture know that we aren't as educated. But here is there the problem lies, and this goes back to your question earlier.

Education is a huge problem. It's been a problem for the past 400 years in America with African Americans. Slowly, this is changing.

The uneducated can't differentiate reality from television/entertainment. So when a entertainer says he's been "bussin' caps" in niggaz, the uneducated and ignorant think it's cool to shoot and kill people.

The educated don't have time to deal with the slackers, so the process of prospering as a whole is at a snail's pace.

Financially, a large portion of african americans are dependent on government funding so they can be "Ghetto Fab", drive a used Tahoe on 24"s, have 5 kids, and have my tax dollars take car of them.

Do I have a problem with these stereotypes/facts? Hell yea I do. Do I have time to tell Tyrone to get off his ass and get a taxable income? Nope. Would I like to help? Sure. But in this day and age, there isn't enough time to pull the slakers' weight, so the educated or sophisticated blacks who are financially stable, educated, and can get the finer things in life don't worry about it and kinda push it under the rug. I'm guity of this. Do I feel bad? Nope. I'm about to graduate from college soon, I have a good job, and I don't have any problems finding a job.

Has it ever occured to u that I am merely stirring the pot for a discussion on a taboo topic?

I like to get it out in the open and have people lay down what they are thinking, since it's certain that millions of others think the same, but are silent due to fear of not being PC and what not.

My educational background is in Journalism, mass comm, advertising, and marketing.

A great combo in starting and stirring the pot.

I've had courses where we have topics just like this being covered. The teacher is black and likes me, cuz I stirred the pot where others are afraid to start talking about it.

DIscussions like this are certainly better than not having any and going back home with less knowledge about what and why people think they way they do.

Equality can be gained, racism can be overcome... a small pee pee is a different story :lmfao:

I can see the BBB.

Bu Blux Blan

Black Power!!!!

All that are small will be lynched.

This just in.....DAK and Babyusher are "in the same boat"

dont forget to take a few cousins with you.

:wiggle:

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You do realize who you're talking to, right?

LoL, seriously....

It's going to take a LOT more then that Playskool racism to offend me...

I play mental chess with BATMAN and Meddle almost daily... You want to learn about wit, i'd suggest taking some lessons from them...

God willing, you'd learn something....

What I wanna know is:

Since when does having a large wang = being a better lover?

And how does being a better lover mean being superior then everyone else?

Why does it matter that you can "bottom out" on a girl and some other guy can't?


I fail to see how penis dimensions = having some sort of "leg up" (no pun intented) on everyone else.... Seriously, if that's the true reason why white people hate on blacks, that's pretty damn sad.....

I wasn't talking about large wang being a better lover (even though, if all things are consider equal, women will go for the large wang).

I was talking about being born with a large wang, a genetic trait that is suppose to be superior.

It's not always about bottoming out on a girl, but being able to fuck them in more positions like spooning that a large wang can do.

And yes, I have asked many of my white friends why white guys hate it when blacks get their girls. It starts with the larger wang.

They said that other races, like asians aren't on their radar.

www.penissizedebate.com will atest that most women that say that size don't matter haven't had the large wang. Once they had it, it's like Crack cocaine. They are hooked and say that anything smaller than a 7" needs to cut their balls off and prevent their gene pool from polluting the large wang race *cough* black cocks.

I'll help- here.


After reading your previous posts, I admit I was wrong in my assumptions for "labeling" you.

My disliking of blacks has nothing to do with penis.

Since you're begging for honesty (go ahead and report this)

This is why I dont prefer blacks:

1: You're ignorant. (Read this thread, none of your points are valid and down right pathetic that this is all you have to argue back with)

2: You arent clean. Most blacks take showers 3 times a week maximum, and wash their hair once, twice at most a week.

3: Stereotypical or not, I call it like I see it. As a culture, blacks do NOT contribute to our society, they only exploit as a means to live and reproduce free of labor.

4: I believe in creation, and most of the time when a black is being analyzed they're so close to a monkey, I almost begin to consider evolution, and I dont like that.

So go on and do what you, as a black culture do, CRY and WHINE. Click the report button and whine that someone is telling you the truth that you cant take.

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Correction- You are one ignorant mother-fucker.

I dont hate blacks, I dont care enough about them to "hate" them.

Ive never met an intelligent black person though.

Sure, 1 out of 1000 can study hard and get an education.....but as far is learning ability and being analytical.....ive never encountered one.

And i've never met a dumb white guy. :rolleyes:

latest studies say the average black penis length is 1/10th of an inch longer than the average white penis length, an 2/10th of an inch longer than asian penis length. There was no correlation between race and girth.

2: You arent clean. Most blacks take showers 3 times a week maximum, and wash their hair once, twice at most a week.



The blacks that I know do take showers......... some probably more than once a day.

But since they make more hormones (the stuff that makes their cocks and pussy grow to mammoth porportions) they will make more odor. Biology 101 dictates that when puberty starts and u make hormones, u stink more.

Correction- You are one ignorant mother-fucker.
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Where are you from Zero? I'm guessing Midwest.

How do whites feel in the south?

They wish they castrated blacks when they set them free.

latest studies say the average black penis length is 1/10th of an inch longer than the average white penis length, an 2/10th of an inch longer than asian penis length. There was no correlation between race and girth.


how do u explain www.monsterofcock.com or blacksandblondes.com

????

I'm surprise they are not in jail for WOmanslaughter when their dick stabs their other organs like liver, heart, kidneys, etc....

Has it ever occured to u that I am merely stirring the pot for a discussion on a taboo topic?


I am aware of that. Otherwise, you'd keep your thoughts to yourself and not engage in the conversation.

They wish they castrated blacks when they set them free.


Ouch...

Ouch...

He's just upset because he pissed on his balls in the bathroom earlier.

a castrated black cock is larger than most other ones with balls........

how do u explain www.monsterofcock.com or blacksandblondes.com

I wouldn't use any internet porn to refute a scientific study. A study uses real data, the porn exploits societal attitudes and stereotypes.

My disliking of blacks has nothing to do with penis.

Since you're begging for honesty (go ahead and report this)

This is why I dont prefer blacks:

1: You're ignorant. (Read this thread, none of your points are valid and down right pathetic that this is all you have to argue back with)

2: You arent clean. Most blacks take showers 3 times a week maximum, and wash their hair once, twice at most a week.

3: Stereotypical or not, I call it like I see it. As a culture, blacks do NOT contribute to our society, they only exploit as a means to live and reproduce free of labor.

4: I believe in creation, and most of the time when a black is being analyzed they're so close to a monkey, I almost begin to consider evolution, and I dont like that.

So go on and do what you, as a black culture do, CRY and WHINE. Click the report button and whine that someone is telling you the truth that you cant take.

:wiggle:

I guess we're supposed to get mad and start yelling racial slurs? :rolleyes:

Your educational level speaks very highly of your intelligence. I can't stress that enough.

But since you're being childish, here's some information for you:

I don't fit into any of those stereotypes
I've been very well educated throughout my life
I am very financially stable
I have a lot of the finer things in life
I take vacations, trips, etc....


AND I HAVE A LARGE PENIS :D

Have a good day

Any of you familiar with the Kama Sutra?

Girls- either a deer (tight as a nun), a mare (most of them) or an elephant (as wide as the english channel)

Boys- a hare (asian), bull (most of us) or a horse (those Batman aspires to be ;) )

You find a mate suitable to your size. A hare and elephant = no-go. A deer and a horse = no-go.

However- a bull can swing either way, same as a mare..


This is old stuff here guys..

Damn. I just got through this thread. I don't even want to go back to post thoughts.

My disliking of blacks has nothing to do with penis.

Since you're begging for honesty (go ahead and report this)

This is why I dont prefer blacks:

1: You're ignorant. (Read this thread, none of your points are valid and down right pathetic that this is all you have to argue back with)

2: You arent clean. Most blacks take showers 3 times a week maximum, and wash their hair once, twice at most a week.

3: Stereotypical or not, I call it like I see it. As a culture, blacks do NOT contribute to our society, they only exploit as a means to live and reproduce free of labor.

4: I believe in creation, and most of the time when a black is being analyzed they're so close to a monkey, I almost begin to consider evolution, and I dont like that.

So go on and do what you, as a black culture do, CRY and WHINE. Click the report button and whine that someone is telling you the truth that you cant take.

:wiggle:

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Oh noes, i'm going to cry because someone decided to voice their opinions...

BOO-HOO....

Nevermind the fact that I get into far worse things with BATMAN or Meddle here, and i've never once considered pressing that button...

I'm sorry, Zero... You fail to compare, no matter how hard to try to ring in for "shock value"... You call my points invalid, yet I expressed them in a manner that covers EVERY walk of life... Not just black people....

If anything, your "points" have been pretty much one track... "I hate black people because i'm too poor to move myself out of a shitty ass living condition where I see only the lower walks of life"....

Come back to me and try again when you actually have some experience with life.... Right now, your level of importance to me is exactly as your name states.... Zero.....

how do u explain www.monsterofcock.com or blacksandblondes.com

????

I'm surprise they are not in jail for WOmanslaughter when their dick stabs their other organs like liver, heart, kidneys, etc....

That's all catered to people with fetishes.... lol, how do you explain those sites that have white gangbangs on black women? :D

I have a lot of the finer things in life
I take vacations, trips, etc....


AND I HAVE A LARGE PENIS :D

Have a good day


If u move out here to my turf.

Look up my zip 94024, u'll be broke.

U packing more than DAK at 7.5? Then again, according to Manntis scientific study u shouldn't be more than 7" More like high 6"

That's all catered to people with fetishes.... lol, how do you explain those sites that have white gangbangs on black women? :D

I was talking about cock size.

Not gang bangs

If u move out here to my turf.

Look up my zip 94024, u'll be broke.

U packing more than DAK at 7.5?

If you adjusted my current income to the cost of living of a college student in Cali, I'd be just fine. Two incomes come in handy.

I used to live in 93245, Lemmore Naval Air Station. You may be familiar with it if you've been through or to San Joaquin valley.

Is my penis size really that important :D

I was talking about cock size.

Not gang bangs

Guess you haven't see what some of those guys are swinging... lol

THAT'S how I learned "white boys have soul"... :rofl:

Ouch...

I've had a man running a large operation in Mississippi tell me astory about putting his cigarette out ona blacks neck in the line at a grocery store. This is a man holding a masters degree in charge of a 1200 person operation.

Obviously I play along as I want him to send me money. But this is the kind of thingsw blacks are fighting in this country. Do you think a man like that would hire a women named nache'?

I've had a man running a large operation in Mississippi tell me astory about putting his cigarette out ona blacks neck in the line at a grocery store. This is a man holding a masters degree in charge of a 1200 person operation.

Obviously I play along as I want him to send me money. But this is the kind of thingsw blacks are fighting in this country. Do you think a man like that would hire a women named nache'?

I can tell you one thing, and i'll make this very clear...

If anyone ever put a cig out on my neck, his family will be making funeral arrangements later that day.

I don't know if a man like that would hire Nache, and hell I don't give a damn. Nache will always have a job at the medical claims office.

I can tell you one thing, and i'll make this very clear...

If anyone ever put a cig out on my neck, his family will be making funeral arrangements later that day.

I don't know if a man like that would hire Nache, and hell I don't give a damn. Nache will always have a job at the medical claims office.


I would like to make it clear that I think that is a terrible thing. Just saying this is the type of things that are going on.