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Old 07-21-2007, 05:33 PM
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Unicorns in the Bible....

Well seems that 'revisions' of the bible keep on coming....

From the KJV

Psalm 22:21 (King James Version)

21Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Now from the NIV

Psalm 22:21 (New International Version)

21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save me from the horns of the wild oxen.



I don't know about you, but I am but I'm sure that I can tell a oxen from a unicorn....so can any 2 year old.

So if it isn't a case of mistaken identity on identifying a creature in the bible, then it must be something with the passage of the bible.


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Old 07-21-2007, 06:09 PM
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agree that is a poor translation
So you admit that man can translate the bible wrongly? That an interpretation can be just as subjective?

Thanks, you have just validated my viewpoint of the bible all along.

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Now what? Unicorns? Can't wait to read about the Magic Bus.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:36 AM
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I've never denied there are minutia translational errors; however, those minutia errors are primarily poor word choice (such as your example) and do not impact the authority or authenticity of the Bible
Wait, how so? If some group were to write the bible, and choose different words, are you saying that the authenticity of that bible would still be sound?

No it wouldn't, thats a really easy question. So yes, poor word choice would impact the authority and authenticity of that bible.



BTW, 'menutia' is a noun, as in "God blessed skidMarked with a menutia".

It is not an adjective, which you clearly used here.
If you wanted to use proper grammar, it should have been with the unabridged form:
"I've never denied there are minutial translational errors"



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no, you mock foundational doctrines of the Bible as a worthless heretic, which is what you have done all along
Go fly that kite someplace else little man, your personal attacks are stupid and only prove that you have nothing worthwhile to say or to add.

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it would, if such word choice errors were common, but the fact is they are exceedingly rare, and the scriptures are exceedingly well preserved...the only way you know about them is surfing your crackpot liberal websites
Rare? You just posted 8 examples above!!!!

And by your post above your really make no point. And BTW a monoceros is another word for unicorn!!! LOL Whose quoting crackpot sites now???

Should I start posting more examples of where translations have messed it up? Do you want to start doing a chapter by chapter comparison of the NIV and NKJ versions? There are so many glaring differences, no wonder your YEC friends are confused.

LOL you are so getting owned on this one...

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read the link, bonehead
I did bone head, and you quoted it as well. You fail again!
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So if the interrupters of the King James Version messed up, it brought about millions of people still today thinking there are unicorns. How stupid to actually believe everything what the bible reads.
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"stupid" to those outside the faith...the link I posted explians the reference is not to mythical unicorns
"stupid" to those inside the faith...it is "explains"
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no, you failed to read
But wait, the bible is God inspired, so how can it be wrong. Thats the point here.
Unicorns, oxen, rhinos.....what ever. The point stands that errors like this lead to false beliefs, try to deny that fact.....

"A unicorn is in the bible so it must be true!"

"The earth was covered by a world wide flood!"

Get the point?
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But wait, the bible is God inspired, so how can it be wrong.

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in the original autograph.

...this is the process of textural criticism...look it up sometime

you DON'T HAVE the original autograph, period.

no matter what you come up with it WON'T BE the original autograph, and so IS NOT what god promised would be True, period.

something that is SIMILAR to absolute truth is NOT absolute truth.
something that is amazingly CLOSE to absolute truth is not absolute truth.

ONLY the original autograph is absolute truth, I would strech the point and accept an absolutely exact copy of the original autograph as being acceptable, but there is no such thing either.
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This is a completey ridiculous point. Do you guys think the translators of the new testament actually had a horned pony in mind when putting this together?
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why are you here?
Your writings are equivalent to watching sponge bob with the kids. We know a talking cartoon isn't real but you animate the whole Bible like it can eat the sandwich you placed next to it. Its a whole lot of hoots!
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Whats really funny about everything you post is that at the end, they all have someone telling you what to think, and the conclusion is strictly biased to the writer.

Don't you have a brain for yourself skidMArk???? I truly believe that you have been brainwashed and can't think for yourself. And when anyone brings up a disagreement on what your cult(s) follow, you blow a fuse. Too bad, you seem smart at times but your attitude is less than to be desired.



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your "point" is simple minded (as usual)
Like a child?

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exactly what the original Hebrew term in question refers to is not altogether obvious,
So the Hebrew text confuses people? Did you just admit that you were confused? Wait a second, how do you know what the Hebrew text meant? Were you one of those scholars that knows Hebrew and translated it to english? You comments are speculative and without any evidence!


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this is the process of textural criticism...look it up sometime
Textual criticism...
empirical science...

You keep on going with that....see how far in life you get with you 'little duckling' ways
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This is a completey ridiculous point. Do you guys think the translators of the new testament actually had a horned pony in mind when putting this together?
Yes they did mean unicorn as they did use it several times...lets see here...what other strange creatures occurred.

Unicorns.
satyrs ( Men who have legs like a goat)
cockatrices ( chicken/ serpents that kill when you look at them)
Giant men (half men/half demon)

What you fail to see is the point of this discussion, or the direction that was taken...
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